I had heard about your giving up the glamorous life of a movie
star mom to live in poverty in Romania. No offence, but you seem to be living
pretty well.
Foreigners seem to want to hear about how hard life is
here, but of course for expats it's not. I 'gave up' a pretty ordinary life
in New York for an extraordinary adventure in Romania. It's true that when
I got here as a Peace Corps volunteer in 2000 I lived without hot water in
a two-room block apartment infested with mosquitoes and strategically situated
above the community garbage bin with an entrance that opened onto the back
side of the fish market. Between the mosquitoes, the rats and the drunken
vendors sleeping in the alley, it was definitely my Hazing Period, but thank
God, my landlady kicked me out - ostensibly because the Peace Corps was late
with the rent. Living conditions got progressively better after that. But,
as fate would have it, that's where I met Alex.
Who's Alex?
The little kid who led me to my life's work. After I'd
been in Bacau for about a month this barefoot boy who looked about 5 years
old set up his begging operation in the middle of a busy intersection right
under my balcony. In my naïveté and enthusiasm, I took him to
a children's shelter run by the organisation I was assigned to. Three days
later his mother showed up cursing me for stealing her family's primary breadwinner.
The next thing I knew I was starting a work-training project for the mothers
of kids like Alex called 'Ready, Willing & Able' (Gata, Dispus si Capabil)
and an education programme for the children. (It turned out that Alex was
8 and had never seen the inside of a school.)
You work in three Roma communities around Bacau, each with
about 250 people. What kind of conditions do they live in?
Technically, they're not 'Roma' communities. The residents
are largely 'of Roma descent' but they don't wear colourful pleated skirts,
they don't speak the Romani language and they don't check 'Roma' on census
forms. But they are all extremely impoverished and ethnic Romanians consider
them 'Gypsies'.
One USAID director who was here said that the conditions were as bad as anything
she'd seen in Africa - only ''in Africa snow never drifts in through the roof.''
Generally speaking the people we work with have no running water, no toilet
facilities - and I mean none - mud walls, dirt floors and patchwork rooves.
It's not unusual for ten people to be living in a 3x5 metre room.
I guess it's difficult to imagine unless one sees it for oneself.
It's almost impossible to imagine that large numbers of
people really live like that in a European country. What was your reaction
when you visited our neighbourhoods?
I felt a number of things: shame because, after ten years
here, maybe one becomes hardened to squalor; relief, because there are people
like you to help. What are some of the ways that you help them?
We don't 'help' them so much as offer them opportunities
to help themselves. We encourage parents to send their children to school
and when they give reasons why they 'can't', we say, ''OK, here are some shoes
for the kids'', or ''Here are school supplies''. We help them get IDs and
vaccinations; we help get the school to add another kindergarten class when
they are told, ''Sorry, we're full, come back next year.î And we give the
kids a nutritious lunch, partly because they desperately need it and partly
as motivation.
Most importantly, our staff shows respect. We assume people want to improve
the conditions in which they live and their children's future prospects. And
they do! This programme is called Gata, Dispus si Capabil because it attracts
people who are in fact 'ready, willing and able' to improve their lives.
What are some of your major achievements in that regard?
There are over sixty women in Bacau today who as a result
of the program are holding legal jobs and are eligible for full job benefits.
With an average of a 6th grade education, this is no small feat in a country
where you are supposed to have a high school diploma to be a waitress and
a tenth grade certificate to work in a factory. As a result of the children's
programme there are also over 200 children living in desperate circumstances
who are now attending school, getting one decent meal a day, vitamins and
vaccinations.
What is the attitude of Bacau's municipal authorities to what
you are doing? Are they cooperative, and are they supportive?
Initially they were cooperative but dubious. But over time,
as they have seen the women working and the kids in school, they have become
very supportive.
What about the wider Bacau community?
The local media has made enormous strides in reporting
the good things happening in these neighbourhoods, not just the bad ones.
And God bless them, without
our even directly asking they changed their references from 'tigani' to 'Romi'.
And what about the Roma people themselves?
Sometimes they get frustrated that we're not doing more.
When you try to help people you always run the risk of making them dependent
and of their developing a false sense of entitlement. They are entitled to
more public services but they're not entitled to sit around and expect somebody
else to ''give them their rights''. It's very important to empower people
without creating dependency, but doing it successfully is more complex than
brain surgery. I would like to think that Eastern European countries could
benefit from the monumental mistakes we made in the West in delivering social
services and thereby set up a better system.
How do you counter the general attitude of Romanians, which
is that Roma do not want to work and do not want to become involved in the
community?
I grew up in Texas in the 1950s and 60s and where I came
from, a lot of otherwise well educated people sincerely believed that black
people and Mexicans were lazy, stupid, dirty and dishonest. They did not understand
the connection between a lack of education and opportunity and deeply entrenched
poverty. Thanks to leaders like Martin Luther King and our civil rights movement,
today most people, even in Texas, do not see the issue as that black and white.
I have hopes that Romanians, who are generally savvier than Texans, won't
take so long to understand the subtleties of the problems and to support solutions
that will improve the lives of everyone in this country. It's no fun being
robbed, but people who are educated and can get decent jobs (regardless of
their skin colour) tend not to rob people.
Your son has said that your activities seem to him to stem
from ''pure and simple idolatry of Eleanor Roosevelt carried to an extreme''.
Is that true?
In a way, yes. But I'm no bleeding heart liberal. I'm very
pragmatic. For some reason I feel called to try and help people who - if they
had had the same chances in life that I have had - would not be living in
subhuman conditions. It's the loss of human potential that I find so tragic
about places like the ones you visited with me in Bacau.
Have you picked up any new heroes in Romania?
As a matter of fact, yes. The first is Michael Guest, the
former US ambassador to Romania. He makes me proud to be an American - at
a time when that's sometimes a stretch - because he embodies what is best
about Americans: honesty, openness, a positive attitude and very high standards.
Another hero of mine is my colleague Marina Gheorghiu. She represents the
best of the new generation of adult Romanians - real commitment to making
this country a better place to live. Marina is very smart and capable and
could so easily be successful in the West. But she has chosen to be here and
to work on difficult social problems. Most Romanians' biggest liability is
that they underestimate how much power they have to change things. A journalist
once asked me, ''So what exactly do you think you have to offer these ëpoor
Romanians'?'' I answered, ''Just my American can-do spirit.'' I am good at
getting things done because I have confidence that what I am trying to do
is important, and that when other people see that, they'll want to help. And
invariably a lot of people do.
Some of our readers may be wondering, ''At the end of the
day, don't you miss hanging out with the likes of Quentin Tarantino and Uma
Thurman?''
One dinner with Quentin Tarantino goes a long way. And
as you probably know, my access to Uma Thurman has recently been severely
diminished.
I wasn't going to ask, but since you mention it, what about
that 'messy' divorce? Is it true that your son cheated on arguably 'the most
beautiful woman in the world'?
How should I know? When was the last time you talked to
your mother about your sex life? I find it ironic that their divorce got so
much attention in the press. They managed to keep their marriage quite private
and Ethan is one of the most conscientious people I've ever known - so it's
funny that he was portrayed as a rotten cad. It makes one wary of anything
one reads in the press. No offence.
What do you really think of Uma?
I am delighted that she is the mother of my grandchildren.
Uma is one of the best cooks and most gracious hostesses in the whole world
and I will be very sad if I am not invited to Thanksgiving dinner.
She was great in Pulp Fiction but Thanksgiving notwithstanding,
it sounds like you've made your life in Romania. What's next?
Ovidiu Rom, the NGO Marina Gheorghiu and I set up to help
people of Roma descent work their way out of poverty, has just started an
exciting pilot project in Bucharest with an excellent children's charity,
Sfantul Stelian, in Sector 5. USAID's GRASP programme (Governance Reform and
Sustainable Partnerships) in collaboration with the Ministry of Labour, Social
Solidarity and Family, other government agencies, and private corporations
are working with us. Our goal is to design a vastly more integrated approach
for improving living standards and educational and employment opportunities
for marginalised families than the previous fragmented system of social service
delivery allowed.
Is Ethan involved and if so, in what way? Has he been to Romania?
Ethan's been here twice and he supports our work generously.
We are very lucky to have him as a kind of organisational safety-net. For
instance, if a grant is late arriving, I can ask him for a loan and the staff
doesn't have to go without their salaries and there's no hiatus in the programme.
That's a luxury that most Romanian NGOs don't have. But then Romanian NGOs
tend to be too passive for their own good. When funders don't make payments
on schedule they should be subject to interest penalties. A more unified NGO
community could influence funders in ways that would benefit the whole sector.
But NGOs tend to put a lot more effort into competing than in working together
for our common good.
As long as I'm being so opinionated, there's something else I'd like to comment
on. One hears a lot about 'abandoned children' in Romania and it really rankles
me! Poor women in Romania do not 'abandon' their children; they give them
up with great anguish because they are destitute. That is an entirely different
problem, requiring different solutions. International adoption doesn't solve
it, but neither does closing institutions and forcing babies and their mothers
to live in squalor or on the street. People do not give up children that are
planned. Sometimes in discussions about international adoption, I get the
feeling that everyone has forgotten where babies come from. The Romanian government,
NGOs and foreign spokespersons should spend more airtime and resources helping
people avoid having children they can't adequately care for and less on arguing
about something that is essentially peripheral.
So, what happened to Alex?
Alex lives around the corner in a group home for former
street kids. I've lost track of his mother and I think he has too - not because
she abandoned him, but because he abandoned her. He starts the fourth grade
this autumn. In May we had a big celebration for Ready, Willing & Able's
third anniversary where we honoured 63 women who have gotten and kept jobs
through our programme. Alex performed at the event as part of our singing
group, Zmeoris, (The Raspberries). There was a new kid in the group, a shy
5-year-old son of one of our graduating mothers. Alex took it upon himself
to hold the little boy's hand on stage and help him with the dance steps.
When you see something like that and know you had a small part in getting
a barefoot, lice-ridden kid off the street and to this level of confidence
and generosity, you feel like the most privileged person in the world.
Leslie Hawke can be contacted at hawke@mic.ro
Ethan Hawke and friends host event in New York to celebrate Romania
On Friday, 12th November, Academy Award nominee Ethan Hawke will host an evening at New York's legendary Century Club to celebrate Romanian democracy-building achievements.
This benefit for the Gata, Dispus si Capabil (ěReady, Willing & Ableî) programmes for impoverished children and their families is being organised by The Alex Fund, a US charity. National Public Radio commentator and author Andrei Codrescu (The Hole in the Flag) and two-time Tony Award winner Brian Dennehy (FX, Death of a Salesman) will co-host. Dennehy will preside as auctioneer for Dinners with Famous Folks, a fabulous all expenses paid trip through Transylvania and Southern Bucovina, and other exotic live auction items.
A silent auction of fine Romanian jewellery, art and fashion will present some of Romania's most talented designers to New York society. Former Ambassador Michael Guest will be honored for his championship of democratic processes and his forceful stand against corruption during his tenure as ambassador to Romania (2001-2004).
Gata, Dispus si Capabil helps mothers of children who beg on the street to find and keep jobs and helps the children reintegrate in school and stay in school. It operates in Bucharest and Bacau. All proceeds from the event will be used to support the Gata, Dispus si Capabil programmes in Romania.
The evening of 12th November offers an opportunity to draw media attention (both Romanian and American) to the advancements in Romania that have been made in recent years toward the development of a truly democratic society.
Anyone wishing to sponsor or attend this event to help Romania's poorest children and their families should contact Leslie Hawke on 0723 222552 or at hawke@mic.ro, or through www.alexfund.org